tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post5225339491321930828..comments2024-03-16T14:00:31.506-04:00Comments on The Daily Profiler: The Madeleine McCann Case and Occam's RazorUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-36191503937194997102015-04-25T09:44:45.394-04:002015-04-25T09:44:45.394-04:00I saw The Pledge also years ago.
In the end we al...I saw The Pledge also years ago.<br /><br />In the end we all have to wait and see what SY do, until then it's all theory and the truth will probably never be fully known about SY or the disappearance of Madeleine. <br />I believe the SY officers working day to day will be working in good faith.<br /><br />Time may well bring many answers but that could be years in the future.<br /><br />In Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-7162790661302812562015-04-25T08:16:01.830-04:002015-04-25T08:16:01.830-04:00Thank you, A, very kind words.
My problem with ad...Thank you, A, very kind words.<br /><br />My problem with ad hominem attacks is that they destroy civil conversation and take away from the subject. I am not the only one being verbally attacked; there are others who have suffered really vicious slurs, some have dealt with far worse than I. Sadly, some of those who have been attacked are attacking others themselves; hence, the antis are Pat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667909509324138003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-85259869571105983682015-04-25T07:31:53.407-04:002015-04-25T07:31:53.407-04:00Pat,
I am very sorry and shocked to read the recen...Pat,<br />I am very sorry and shocked to read the recent horrid and vile ad hominem attack on you.<br />I do not agree with everything in any of the more reasoned theories put forward but please remember these attacks reflect the personality of the writer not you.<br /><br />A.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-35630294330317089832015-04-24T10:39:58.494-04:002015-04-24T10:39:58.494-04:00Haha ad hominem attacks over Cleopatra seems quite...Haha ad hominem attacks over Cleopatra seems quite ridiculous. It's bizzarre that after all that time the truth cannot come out.<br /><br />Well I think detective training must offer at least some satisfaction, since you must feel to some extent like your influencing the next generation. Personally I wish they would teach in schools, all the lessons that we might take away from the McCann Thomas Baden-Riessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-1508381348253772882015-04-24T09:35:26.547-04:002015-04-24T09:35:26.547-04:00Well, Thomas, I analyzed the 2000 year of mystery ...Well, Thomas, I analyzed the 2000 year of mystery of Cleopatra and I am still getting ad hominem attacks on my work. Few will discuss my findings because, as one CNN commentator put it, I am messing up a good myth! So, experience tells me that time often makes matters worse because on one hand, one has no clear understanding of the time and place; on the other hand, years of media can completely Pat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667909509324138003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-28635035840253555622015-04-24T09:23:56.952-04:002015-04-24T09:23:56.952-04:00Well if people have attacked you I would take it a...Well if people have attacked you I would take it as a compliment: they know you're high profile and with kudos, so when you disagree with them on things that they feel are important, they can't just brush you off as an internet nutter. <br /><br />The problem is that we're never going to agree about everything. In classical terms, we are the opposition, and history will tell you that Thomas Baden-Riesshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zMJRXGpvzAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-14102614712718120842015-04-24T08:22:10.235-04:002015-04-24T08:22:10.235-04:00Thomas, thank you for your kind words.
My frustr...Thomas, thank you for your kind words. <br /><br />My frustration is mostly at seeing things devolve from a clear focus on this case of the McCanns' involvement in the death of their daughter and a subsequent hurried coverup and support of Gonçalo Amaral and his fight for justice, to a dozen very convoluted theories that I believe only serve to damage the antis message that the McCanns are Pat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667909509324138003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-5980068736871111162015-04-24T08:11:26.895-04:002015-04-24T08:11:26.895-04:00Rosalinda (continued) As to the other cases of sim...Rosalinda (continued) As to the other cases of similarity, I can tell you along with those you have named, there are many more, cases of parents with children who have gone missing but no bodies. And, all most all of those have gone unsolved. JonBenet was unique because the body was still there but what happened in that cases was a horrible early investigation which compromised the evidence and Pat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667909509324138003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-31468065976205887562015-04-24T08:09:12.999-04:002015-04-24T08:09:12.999-04:00Rosalinda,
I did not have faith in the Scotland Y...Rosalinda,<br /><br />I did not have faith in the Scotland Yard review from Day One. Why? Because they were not invited in by the Portuguese police nor were they looking for an abductor where the local police search for an abductor had failed. These are the only two reasons a foreign police entity normally involve themselves in a case. So what was Scotland Yard doing there? Only two possibilitiesPat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667909509324138003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-67723677669444900262015-04-24T03:09:23.606-04:002015-04-24T03:09:23.606-04:00I have always been optimistic regarding the Scotla...I have always been optimistic regarding the Scotland Yard investigation, but now I just don't know. Its gone on too long and SY have gone over and above in their attempts to find anyone (as long as its not mccanns or tapas) to pin the blame on. If this were a film set, it would be Liz Taylor's Cleopatra, no expense spared, no set too big to build. Why? It isn't convincing anyone, Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-59297873785072141212015-04-23T16:34:35.550-04:002015-04-23T16:34:35.550-04:00I saw your post on Facebook Pat but couldn't r...I saw your post on Facebook Pat but couldn't respond.<br /><br />I think you're just about the only person on this case who's always maintained their dignity. That is saying a lot given all the abuse you've suffered from both pros and antis and given that most other people on this case (myself included) have at some time or another got deeply angry or gone quite insane.<br /><br /Thomas Baden-Riessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-91450670097516396132015-04-23T08:47:29.442-04:002015-04-23T08:47:29.442-04:00Eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable. NO...Eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable. NO parent who wasn't involved in their daughters demise would dismiss any possible lead. That is unquestionably abnormal and beyond suspicious of the McCannsp.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02097156533840476283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-81178115132608507142015-04-23T06:46:43.599-04:002015-04-23T06:46:43.599-04:00Rosalinda, one of the reasons I stopped commenting...Rosalinda, one of the reasons I stopped commenting on this case (along with the fact I believe that the Scotland Yard investigation is a fraud and the case is dead in the water) is because the discussion has devolved into a vicious battleground between different theories. Instead of people simply disagreeing with each other, the ad hominem attacks have become quite unpleasant. There are people I Pat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667909509324138003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-41968231696861235452015-04-23T06:44:48.167-04:002015-04-23T06:44:48.167-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Pat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667909509324138003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-68317167245508249222015-04-23T04:49:53.930-04:002015-04-23T04:49:53.930-04:00I agree with your Occam's Razor comparison Pat...I agree with your Occam's Razor comparison Pat, but more importantly so too did Goncalo Amaral and the PJ. The chances that a man of the same age, build, hairstyle and face as Gerry McCann was carrying an inert 3/4 year old little girl through the streets of PDL at just the right time, are a zillion to one. <br /><br />Unfortunately, it appears those trying to complicate the issues and muddyRosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-38434467763283174812015-04-23T04:25:58.559-04:002015-04-23T04:25:58.559-04:00I have put some comments about this on my Facebook...I have put some comments about this on my Facebook page if anyone wants to see. I do agree however that we'll never find out what went on and that Grange is a total whitewash, and that all this arguing is pointless.Thomas Baden-Riesshttps://www.facebook.com/simon.adebisi.54?fref=tsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-43816045871990361462015-04-23T02:24:28.165-04:002015-04-23T02:24:28.165-04:00Some comments about your blog here Pat http://jil...Some comments about your blog here Pat http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t11206-the-madeleine-mccann-case-and-occam-s-razor#307580Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-26725257827839771032015-04-22T23:42:32.815-04:002015-04-22T23:42:32.815-04:00Please no more discussion about the McCann case. I...Please no more discussion about the McCann case. I do not wish to argue over everyone's theories. If you wish to understand my particular analysis, please read the rest of my blogs and/or my book. Feel free to have your own opinions and theories but please refrain from ad hominem attacks on others simply because they have an alternate theories. Even detectives often have a number of working Pat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667909509324138003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-23363333490604447882015-04-22T23:37:39.875-04:002015-04-22T23:37:39.875-04:00"Tthe Gaspar statements are not reliable. I c..."Tthe Gaspar statements are not reliable. I cannot get excited about these because we only hear from one woman who wasn't exactly sure what she saw and from her husband who does not agree with her assessment. Sadly, some of those who cry out that we ought to rely on facts in the McCann case are willing to allow one questionable statement about David Payne to become a focal point of what Pat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667909509324138003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-62556175991276309282015-04-22T23:33:17.670-04:002015-04-22T23:33:17.670-04:00Anon 9:::06
I have already coverred the Gaspar st...Anon 9:::06<br /><br />I have already coverred the Gaspar statements previously and I am not going to go into it again. I do not find her statement credible, at least not her interpretation of what occurred. Pat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667909509324138003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-39438660592731268192015-04-22T22:30:49.700-04:002015-04-22T22:30:49.700-04:00Dear Pat
I am anon 9:06.
Of course the Gaspar st...Dear Pat<br /><br />I am anon 9:06.<br /><br />Of course the Gaspar statements weren't part of the initial investigation by the PJ because Leicester police withheld the statements from them for six months. Give me a valid reason why the police withheld these statements for so long?<br /><br />Mrs. Gaspar is a doctor and as far as we know she is as credible and reliable a witness as the Smith Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-10430904024008944192015-04-22T21:25:01.108-04:002015-04-22T21:25:01.108-04:00Hi Pat, I do agree that this made up mystery requi...Hi Pat, I do agree that this made up mystery requires to be looked at globally. Some points are anchors, like the Smith sighting and the EVRD's alerts in the flat. Death on the 3rd no doubt, rigor mortis doesn't allow carrying a body as if it were a living one. Smithman had to renounce disposing of the body on the beach/in the sea after he was spotted by so many people who would Anne A. Corrêa-Guedeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17652561394570212256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-67230936738242903652015-04-22T21:11:48.020-04:002015-04-22T21:11:48.020-04:00ANON 9:08
The point you missed is not whether the...ANON 9:08<br /><br />The point you missed is not whether the Smith sighting is legitimate; it is that the McCanns immediately dismissed it which is not normal for parents of a missing child.<br /><br />As I was pointing out an issue of Occam's Razor, I did not go into the totality of the evidence in the McCann case. You can find all of that in my book and blogs. The totality of the evidence Pat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667909509324138003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-56696473842567168422015-04-22T21:08:26.227-04:002015-04-22T21:08:26.227-04:00Anon 9:06
The Gaspar statement is not believable ...Anon 9:06<br /><br />The Gaspar statement is not believable which is why it was not a major issue in the investigation.<br /><br />As for your other comments, you are just purposely missing the point.Pat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667909509324138003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922146196940335995.post-77769797030560418682015-04-22T21:06:16.866-04:002015-04-22T21:06:16.866-04:00Dear Pat
I am not sure why you believe the Smith ...Dear Pat<br /><br />I am not sure why you believe the Smith sighting yet dismiss the Gaspar statements. You haven't met any of these folk to judge them. <br />But let's use your method:<br /><br />Occam's Razor says a father would not carry the corpse of his daughter through the streets.<br /><br /><br />Occam's Razaor says pedophiles might kill a child, accidentally or not. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com