Friday, December 2, 2016

The Bizarre Case of Sherri Papini


Jogger, wife, and mother of two, 34-year-old Sherri Papini disappeared while out for her afternoon run on November 2, 2016, reappearing on Thanksgiving Day on the side of a road 150 miles from her home, in the wee hours of the morning.

A chain around her waist and one hand, waving a paper bag and screaming out for help, Sherri Papini finally was brought home. According to her husband, she suffered beatings, burning, and branding while she was in captivity of two Hispanic woman and was abducted at gunpoint by these two women in the middle of the day.

It seems that Mrs. Papini remembers nothing of the her days in captivity and can only give a vague description of the two women because either she had her head covered or they had their faces covered "most of the time."

There are many people out there who think this whole abduction claim is a hoax. Her husband furiously attacked these people in his statement:

Rumors, assumptions, lies, and hate have been both exhausting and disgusting. Those people should be ashamed of their malicious, sub human behavior. We are not going to allow those people to take away our spirit, love, or rejoice in our girl found alive and home where she belongs. I understand people want the story, pictures, proof that this was not some sort of hoax, plan to gain money, or some fabricated race war. I do not see a purpose in addressing each preposterous lie. Instead, may I give you a glimpse of the mixture of horror and elation that was my experience of reuniting with the love of my life and mother of our children.

I certainly can understand his feelings; no one likes hurtful and hateful stuff said on the Internet about a loved one. But, what is interesting is what he didn't say in his first statement to the press. While he says he will not address preposterous lies, he never says people are wrong about Sherri not being abducted. Furthermore, in the remainder of his statement, he calls what happened "a tragedy" - not a crime - and he expresses no anger toward any kidnappers of his wife who are supposed to have tortured and starved her (and, perhaps, raped her, humiliated her, and terrified her). He shows no anger at the criminals who took the mother of his children away and almost took her life. He is working very hard to convince the public of the kind of person she is and how many injuries she has but he leaves out any discussion of finding the kidnappers and getting justice for what they put his wife and family through.

As to Sherri Papini's statements to the police, we know of little. The police have said she is having a problem remembering anything except now a partial description - voice, eyebrows and hair of the two women. I find it odd she has no description of the missing time. Although, yes, sometimes PTSD will cause victims of horrendous crimes to block things out, it is also often part of fake kidnappings to have the reporter (said victim) to be missing details because she actually has none to share of any real abduction and captivity. This is not necessarily the case here, but it is something that has to be considered when analyzing this case.

The vague description of the two women is also odd and is attributed to them being sometimes masked and sometimes the victim being masked. If this is a true statement from the police, it makes little sense because that means some of the time their faces were able to be seen by the purported victim. Did the women both have bandanas on when they pointed the gun at Sherri and pull her into the vehicle? When they had her in captivity for three weeks, were they inconsistant about whether they could chance her seeing them or not? This is something that will be explored more carefully by the police.

Now, to the type of crime this could be. Some are saying it is connected with sex trafficking, that it has all the hallmarks of this (especially promoted by the Papini private investigator). I see no sign of this at all. There is a myth going around these days that healthy and happy family women are being grabbed off the street and forced into the prositution, never to be seen again. This is not true in this country. Sex trafficking, as people think of it, is prevalent in poor countries, where young women are indeed kidnapped and forced into brothels. There is a limited version of this crime in this country within certain communities of (usually) illegal aliens, especially those being brought in by certain criminal rings.

However, neither sex traffickers or pimps kidnap thirty-four-year-old middle class women jogging down the road. They don't even kidnap sixteen or eighteen-year-old middle class girls jogging down the road. They don't even kidnap poor girls jogging down the road. Girls and women who are out jogging and go missing are almost always taken by serial predators. Sex traffickers and pimps can just get all the young, blonde girls (and all other sorts) just by honing in on runaways, drug users, and girls already in the prostitution business. Getting ahold of these girls is easy and doesn't cause a major police investigation to ensue and the photo of the missing girl or woman to be splattered all over the news and Internet.

Furthermore, you don't beat the face of the girl you want to make money off of and cut off her pretty hair. Yes, a pimp may do that if his girl gets out of control and he loses his temper, but messing up the merchandise cuts into profits.


And, thirty-four is "old" in terms of prositution. Sherri Papini is a good looking thirty-four-year old but a woman approaching middle age; she hardly is the top choice for men seeking sex for money.

So, no, I doubt if Sherri Papini was kidnapped into the sex trade. All I can think of for such a strange crime is a gang initiation, a kidnap for ransom gone bad, a hate crime, or some personal retaliation. None of these seems to make a lot of sense, but this is what the police should be looking at if they believe her story of being kidnapped.

And if Sherri Papini wasn't kidnapped? What could have happened? Good question. Much depends on what the evidence is. Right now we have the husband claiming she had severe bruising, a broken nose, severe burns, a branding, and that she was severely emaciated from starvation. Yet, she did not even remain in the hospital overnight. I find this very odd if she was as severely battered as has been claimed. One would think she would have at least been observed overnight or even for forty-eight hours. The husband also claimed his wife had screamed until her throat bled, something that does not actually occur, medically speaking. However, maybe the information is wrong that we are getting. The level of her injuries is something the police have to consider in deciding if these were self-inflicted or caused by others. It would not be the first time a woman who has Munchausen's Syndrome (a version of personality disorder in which a person - usually a female)  - claims to be ill or harmed or raped or stalked in order to gain attention and sometimes this even means the person will cause injuries to herself  to support her claim. The partner of such a individual is often, for want of a better word, a dolt, someone who will buy into what this person says because it is in his best interest and makes life easier for him. We often find such is true of spouses of women who kill their babies one after the other; the partner just kind of shrugs and says she is a good mother, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary.

Another interesting part of this alleged crime is two females being the perpetrators. Two is a number that says I had to comply because it was a two on one fight and they could keep me from escaping. Secondly, by having women be the perpetrators, the victim can return home without having been raped or having to be not found raped which would be odd if she were taken by males.

So, where does this leave the crime? The police have to wonder about the peculiarity of the crime, the odd post Sherri Papini made years ago about physically fighting with Latinas, connections she and her husband have to a group focused on protecting onself from kidnapping,  about the husband spending more time glorifying his wife to the public than focused on finding the people that did this horrible thing to his beautiful wife:


“And again, just another sign of how my wife is, she’s so wonderful. She’s saying, ‘Well, maybe people aren’t stopping because I have a chain that looks like I broke out of prison’ so she tried to tuck in her chain under her clothes.”


The police have to wonder why he went public with all these details of his wife's kidnapping and injuries when such disclosure would impede the investigation and why he would say to his son, "I found Mommy," when he did no such thing at all.

Something is very odd about this crime and these people. But, because I am not on the inside of the police investigation it may be that they have much more information about Sherri's statements, behaviors, and injuries and likewise of other evidence. This may eventually become known and prove whether Sherri Papini was the victim of a frightening and vicious crime, perhaps, a kind of crime that will become more popular in this country in the future, or the public is a victim of a hoax, another fake kidnapping designed to get attention or make money or make a political point.


Criminal Profiler Pat Brown

December 2, 2016

64 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well balanced discussion of this case and all of its red-flags without being too harsh on any of the people involved. She's alive and that is a positive. I hope the whole truth comes out. I am leaning hoax but a real abduction can not be ruled out, IMO.

I am not the first to say this but it is a shame that because she is white, pretty and a mom the case is getting so much attention (along with the family's social media campaign, the weird "reverse' ransom of their negotiator, GoFundMe and all weird bizarre aspects)....when missing males, women of color, and old people vanish without much awareness.

Anonymous said...

Excellent and refreshing to read your thoughts on this case Pat. I lean towards "hoax" and don't think she was ever planning on coming back but the media exposure, reward (casting more eyes in her direction) and "this isn't all it was cracked up to be" got her to rethink everything and plan a return home without losing face and reputation in the community, saving her marriage and family. Positioning it as a hate crime aligned with her strong political views. My guess on the "branding" is a mexican flag or something of that nature. Where the hard evidence will be found is on cellphones and computers. There is likely a lover she was with during this period of being missing and prior to this there will be incriminating correspondence. Way to make America great again Sherri! Sorry if my "subhuman" take on your disappearance offends you.

Anonymous said...

Thank you, Pat! I've been waiting for you to comment on this case.
I haven't believed a word of this story since day 2.
The first day, I was concerned, but when learning the little facts that came out, it didn't sound legit.
I just didn't know why she would stage her own kidnapping.
Then, when her skinhead letter came to light, a user on WebSleuths posted
a theory that she would be "found" and claim to have been kidnapped by Latinos.
Low and behold, that's exactly what happened.
I just wonder how many people are involved. I can see you are trying to remain open minded.
Good for you!

You've made a good point, in that he has not shown any urgency to find the perps.
He has no fear of them coming back for the kids?
I also picked up on the comment of them hiding their faces "some of the time." Well now....
She also stated that none of the "dark colored SUVs" picked up on video surveillance were there perps. That's convenient.
Another statement Keith made was that the perp(s) "kind of" pushed her out of the car.
Not a strong statement. There's no "kind of" in that situation.
She waved for help, hiding "her chains." Most would have said "those chains" or "the chains,"
distancing themselves from those loathsome restraints.
The whole letter to GMA was preposterous. It sounded like a romance novel.
As Peter Hyatt says, liars do not like being called out on their lies,
so they are more angry with people disbelieving their story than they are at the perps.
I can't imagine caring what people thought of me, while my wife was traumatized and injured.
Catch the perps, and everyone will know you're not lying.

Sorry for rambling. I'm not allowed to post such thoughts on WebSleuths, and rightly so,
but I just can't stand that the Papinis (and possibly the Gamble character, et al) are wasting so many good people's time.

Thanks for the post.

Pat Brown said...

Anon 2:25

I think you have brought up many more good points. Maybe the Papinis have nothing to do with any hoax; maybe this case really is one of stranger abduction. But, it is very hard to get past all the bizarre circumstances and statements without raising an eyebrow and thinking that, at least, one must entertain the thought that there is something amiss here.

It will be interesting to find out what evidence actually exists and what it ends up meaning.

Briean said...

Pat, do you have any thoughts on Cameron Gamble, the "negotiator" that either volunteered or was hired for this case?

Pat Brown said...

Briean,

He is rather interesting, but, he sounds mostly like someone taking a lot of credit for helping when, in fact, the offer money as ransom really seemed to have nothing to do with Sherri reappearing. He goes on about how this could be a great model for the future helping with kidnap victims when zero was actually achieved. Very weird.

http://www.krcrtv.com/news/cameron-gamble-speaks-about-sherri-papinis-return/192865005

Not only that but actually privately offering money for kidnapped people, well, what a good reason to kidnap people!

Police were not happy with this as they weren't happy with her husband giving up many details.

Anonymous said...

Pat, what do you think about a message being branded into her body? and why aren't they inviting Criminal Profilers to review the message and how it was branded into her skin and where? because depending on where is it and what is says surely someone should be able to tell if it was done by another person or ones self.

Thank you,

SL

Pat Brown said...

Anon 6:36 The supposed branding is weird. I really have no idea what they mean by that and that it was a message. Until we hear more, I will not be able to comment on the meaning of it. Obviously, if there really is something of some sort branded on Sherri Papini, they want to keep this quiet for now - in case someone confesses and that is part of the confession. On the other hand, if it is really odd, they should maybe release the info so the person who did it can be identified (like the Unibomber's brother identified him once they publicized his writing).

But, until we know what this brand supposedly is, I really haven't a clue. It may not even really be a brand, but is someone's interpretation of a burn or whatever.

Anonymous said...

Theory 1: I'm an unfortunate "expert" on narcissistic personality disorder and the husband exhibits numerous traits. And if he's also a sociopath, both of which control and punish their victims, we can fill in the blanks. Obviously no one can accuse him of having a PD except a psychiatrist, but many people do not think of the possibility in a lot of murder and abuse cases because they haven't experienced or studied one of these monsters directly.

Theory 2: Gamble runs "Project Taken". The training teaches how to handle potential harmful situations through awareness, avoidance, or negotiation and escape.

I think this is worthy of knowing about. Seems like Sherri might've taken the course...

Anonymous said...

I think that the Papini family are going to make quite a bit of money from their 'story'.....

Anonymous said...

I agree. And with all the laughable attempts to make his statements sound poetic, I'd say Keith has already started writing his book. HIS book.

Anonymous said...

Look @ the provocative way she's dressed in this photo and that says it all. She's a hound for attention, and is willing to invent a story in order to get it. I believe she suffers with Histrionic Personality Disorder. Also keep in mind the investigation is not advancing because, as I understand it, those in charge are her former employers--Shasta County Sheriff Dept.

Anonymous said...

I have found this story hard to believe since day one. It seems to me that people who intend to survive these kinds of abductions try to memorize every detail possible such as the interior of the car, the people's voices, surroundings, noises if blindfolded etc. That she has little or no detail is suspicious to me. Makes me think of Balloon Boy - it might not be what it seems.

Unknown said...

You all need to do a little more research about this sheriff. He has an online video speaking to a group of people where he has similar racist viewpoints to the Papini's. The ransom offer was handled by a foundation called Project Taken who is affiliated with Bethel church in Redding, CA. Bethel church is an extremist (supremacist?) church many consider a cult. There are rumors that the sheriff is linked to Project Taken, who also happened to make an abduction video with a Sherri look a like 4 years ago with similar storyline. She was allegedly also involved in another kidnapping hoax in 2006 or 2009 where she was branded with the word MILF. There has been no one confirming any of her injuries other than the sheriff and her husband. The driver who called 911 said she was flagged down by a woman with long blonde hair yet she supposedly had her hair chopped off? Oops, big mistake, which actually makes the allegations about the involvement of the sheriff seem more plausible. If you research information about the sheriff he has numerous complaints against him for being in a fairly small town. He was involved in the investigation of a missing child where the father was shot and killed in a hail of bullets that is very questionable. There is also a video posted online where he speaks to a group of people using similar racist language to what is written in the skinheadz blogs allegedly written by Sherri under her maiden name. There is a blog that was suddenly shut down last night after 20/20 that has links to all of the above called something like "Sherri Papini: what's really going on in her mind." Worth checking out. I have a feeling there's a lot more to come. Hopefully EVERYONE involved will be held accountable.

Karen Anne RN said...

Keith said that she was abducted while she was jogging.
He also said that she was abducted while she was at home wrapping his Christmas present.
So which is it ?
I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but this case is so freakin weird.
Also, the woman who saw Sherri on the road said she had long blonde hair. But I thought the kidnappers had chopped it off.
What is it with Keith saying "Her signature blonde hair." It's weird.
I've worked missing persons cases for 12 years, and I've never seen one quite this weird. So many questions lead to even more questions.

Karen Anne RN said...

Sorry, I think I forgot to add that there is a newspaper article that says that the same thing happened to Sherri in 2009.
Thank you for your work on this Pat.

Ohio_Rose said...

Remember balloon boy? This story reminds me of that case. Somehow they will make money off this case probably from more than source. #moneygrab

Anonymous said...

Hi, I see striking similarities between this 'abduction' case, and that of Kevin McGeever, an Irish businessman with dealings all over the USA and Dubai who disappeared in 2012, and was 'found' on a back rural road 8 months later. There are so many similar details in these 2 cases, branding, extreme weight loss, not seeing the 'kidnappers faces' etc.
At the time, I believed McGeever. I didn't see how anyone could deliberatly turn themselves from a well polished and dressed 16 stone businessman, to a frail long-bearded, long fingernailed and totally emaciated man. However , a further investigation by the Irish Gardai found that he had faked it.
Her injuries and 'branding' are superficial. She cut her own hair. I know what 2 women would do to one they bothered to kidnap and starve her, and it would involve the like of missing teeth or broken limbs.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think she was up to something, and had to disappear for a few weeks- be it an affair,or I see claims of 'wanting fame', or whatever her motivation was. There was a sighting of her with 2 men 2 days before she re-appeared, she appeared scared and did not acknoweledge her name , but the lady who saw her felt strongly enough about it that it was her, that she rang the police to report it.

Anonymous said...

I have never believed this hoax from the beginning thank you Pat for your insight but these people are a bunch of liars! Shame on them

Anonymous said...

Your blog has valid insights that I think everyone is thinking, myself included....The story just does not add up to be honest, especially when a gofundme account was set up by him, makes me wonder what their finances are like to be honest. $50,000 goes a long way.

Anonymous said...

Do you know where I could find this article? Would really like to read it.

Anonymous said...

There were 2 red flags for me in the 20/20 segment. Number one: while shaving his cell phone rang, but since he says he did not recognize the calling number..he did not answer........a BIG HM-MMMMM? for me. Number 2....talking about his wife he looks down & mumbles the word "wonderful". There were a few other issues I had with his interview....but those 2 really stuck out to me.

Anonymous said...

Hmmm, the movie "Gone girl" keeps popping into my head every time I come across these posts about Sharri. She planned / manipulated everything. I'd like to believe it, but, it's a long shot. Hopefully the truth will come out soon. 6

Anonymous said...

Here's my 2 cents. He gets home, she is not there, He calls his mom, he calls the daycare, but He doesn't call her? He instead immediately does his FIND YOUR PHONE thing?? Wouldn't anybody call her phone before even calling other people? Also isn't anybody interested in this Anonymous person who gives a 6 figure reward? But the money never has to be giving out because she gets released JUST IN TIME?? Tell me why if she is such a super mom why are her kids in daycare all day??

Anonymous said...

One thing I haven't seen discussed. Sherri by all accounts a stay at home mom and husband works at Best Buy. But we see vacation photos from all over. Tropical background. And a photo of them on what appears to be a private jet.
I think they are in large debt and that has something to do with this case - punishment for not paying back or a scam money grab. I am calling BS on the anonymous donor who put up the reward.
Jim

Anonymous said...

According to the 20/20 reporter he did try and call her cell phone before using the find my phone app. I have no idea why they left that out of the broadcast. The supermom stuff is ridiculous but putting your kids in daycare doesn't make you a bad parent. They may have only been in daycare for part of the day or a part time basis. Lots of SAHMs do that. Also, law enforcement said the woman spotted at a gas station in a truck with two men was not Sherri.

This case is weird. I thought it was a hoax. I am stuck on the depth of injuries Keith described and the weight loss. It is kind of hard to imagine Sherri doing this to herself. I just can't make sense of any of this. Motives don't make sense. The kidnapping "expert" who thinks his reverse ransom solved the case. Lack of description of suspects. No one involved seems overly anxious about finding the people who did this. Notice that 20/20 didn't even bother to include a tipline or phone number for people to call. It all doesn't add up.

Pat Brown said...

Anon 6:40

I haven't heard that 20/20 left out that the Keith tried to called Sherri. I am very familiar with editing and that things can be cut but the segment in which Keith is relaying exactly what he did when he found the house empty does not include any phone call. It seems to me odd that if he did call his wife, this was not a big deal. He should have done so more than once before searching for the phone. It is human nature to call and let the phone ring and ring, and then hang up and try again. But, unless 20/20 purposely cut that out of his statement (which seems odd because this should be a very emotional part of his statement) then Keith did not bother mentioning he called his wife.

Pat Brown said...

The Moment Keith Knew Something Was Wrong

When Keith returned home from work that evening, he said he was expecting to have his wife, daughter and 4-year-old son, Tyler, greet him at the door, but only found unsettling silence inside the house.

“I looked in different rooms and couldn’t find anyone,” he said. “So I thought, ‘Maybe they’re outside,’ and I looked around outside ... but at the time I thought, ‘Huh, I’m sure they’re all together.’ I had no reason to believe otherwise.”

PHOTO: Keith Papini spoke to ABC News Matt Gutman about the ordeal his wife Sherri Papini went through.ABC News
Keith Papini spoke to ABC News' Matt Gutman about the ordeal his wife Sherri Papini went through.more +
Keith said he opened up the “Find My iPhone” feature on his iPhone to search for Sherri’s iPhone and see if he could find her location. It showed Sherri’s phone was near their mailbox, about a mile away from the house. At first, Keith said he thought maybe she had taken the kids for a walk to get the mail.

Keith said he called his mother and asked her if she had spoken to Sherri. When she told him no, he called the kids’ day care.

“The first thing I said was, ‘What time did Sherri pick up the kids today?’” Keith said. “And she said, ‘The kids are here.’ It was like, ‘Something is wrong, there is something wrong right now.’”

“I got in the car and immediately drove down the end of our mailbox, and was anticipating I would see her walking,” he said.

But his wife nowhere to be seen. Frantic, Keith started driving around, scouring their area around their property. He went back to the mailbox where the “Find My iPhone” feature had first pinpointed Sherri’s phone.

“It did not take me long [to find it]. It was right off the road,” he said.

Next to her phone, Keith found Sherri’s headphones, which he said were tangled with strands of her blond hair.

rob said...

Too many parts of the interview didn't seem true to me.
The 4 yr old says, daddy you can tell me anything.
If they had walked to the mailbox, why didn't he pass them on the drive in.
The family is in hiding, not out of fear, but because she needs privacy.
Treated and released with all the injurys and starvation.
Etc...
In most of their photos as a couple, and they really have a lot of them, she is looking directly at the camera and he is sideview or backview. What does that mean? (And who took all those couple photos? They don't look like selfies) He is not ugly, I think they are evenly matched as a couple, would pass for brother and sister really.
Something is not right here, and if it's fraud, I hope they are busted!

Anonymous said...

I live in Redding. They are not the happy perfect couple they picture to be. She's not the Supermom either. The Sherrif department is familiar with this family (the reason why they did not take her missing seriously at first). She has done this before in 2006. This is a small town,Many know the truth about her and its not the truth you watched on TV.

Anonymous said...

I live in Redding. They are not the happy perfect couple they picture to be. She's not the Supermom either. The Sherrif department is familiar with this family (the reason why they did not take her missing seriously at first). She has done this before in 2006. This is a small town,Many know the truth about her and its not the truth you watched on TV.

Unknown said...

This is all a good discussion but there are still possibilities that have not been mentioned among them; some cult rituals. I do not know yet what to believe and am not going to pass judgement but all possibilities need to be explored. Its been a while since a cult made headlines, this one could be due.

Pat Brown said...

Unknown,

Nothing in this case looks a bit like a cult.

Anonymous said...

Look at the photo Keith took of her cell phone - the screen is lit. If it had been sitting on the ground for some amount of time, would the screen not have been dark/sleep mode?

Anonymous said...

to the anonymous poster who said the police chief ruled out the Everson sighting... he ruled it out because Sherri said it never happened. think about that for a second. this means the police chief received a real-time sighting report, and didn´t bother to look into it. then, much later, Sherri says it never happened. there is no way the police chief knew anything about the dark blue pickup truck and whether it contained Sherri or some other kidnapped blonde girl... this story is so full of bullcrap!

Anonymous said...

I think it´s totally convenient that Sherri doesn´t remember anything about her captivity, but she remembers they sometimes wore masks, and sometimes put a bag over her head, and she rocked to sleep a rolled up piece of cloth every night. she may be withholding info for fear the real captors will retaliate. maybe the keystone kops are dealing with the true facts behind the camera´s eye, who knows? but they seem really stupid to me.

Anonymous said...

last point... the husband must be totally innocent. he passed a lie detector test and was completely cooperative with the police. I think anyone trying to discern fact from fiction in this case must use his innocence in this case as a starting point. Sherri is nothing but a question mark. and she doesn´t seem willing to fill in any blanks. If one makes a list of possible motives for this case, and there are no easy answers to this enigma, they can eliminate all f those without a good motive. noone goes to this kind of trouble, risking their own capture, without a good reason. no gang initiation or sex ring would release her with the facts she obviously has. so...

Pat Brown said...

Anon 4:24

You make a good point about selective memory. I am curious to how her interviews with the police really went.

Anonymous said...

They interviewed him for 4 hours! Who knows what was left on the floor.

Anonymous said...

I just want to comment on her health status as reported by her husband when found. He said she was *severely emaciated*. Absolutely not. Even if the kidnapping story were true, at most she was deprived of food/nutrition for three weeks. She might have lost a few pounds. Those suffering from starvation and people who are significantly emaciated are either chronically ill or purposely starved. It takes long periods of time to become emaciated - to lose muscle mass and fat.
His dramatizing her condition only makes me more doubtful.

Anonymous said...

As far as the branding goes perhaps if this is tied to the fight and writings on SkinHeadz it could be retaliatory or vengeance. The one reason Im drawn to that conclusion is that the blog specifically states she broke the girls nose and one of her injuries is alleged to be a double fractured nose. Im thinking the branding may be derogatory if they connected from her past. Another is his mention of the word sub-human. That is w racist Nazi term that was coined during the Hitler years and like you said, I too noticed he went after the naysayers and doubters instead of demanding justice for his wife.

Anonymous said...

I'm starting to believe this case will turn out like Captain Jill Metzger in Kyrgystan ten years ago. She says she was kidnapped by Terrorists and escaped by hitting one of them over the head while offering him oral sex. She then runs 30 miles back to a military base where my wife was stationed. The military used significant resources to find her. Turns out she was pregnant and went to a coat hanger abortionist. She was having affair with commander who got her out of country fast. Sick woman.

Anonymous said...

When one takes the time to read husband's comments pressers and interviews from the very beginning they really do appear to be scripted and extensively rehearsed.
Pat; I sincerely hope LE are reading your thoughts. I have a sinking feeling they need all the help they can get. Sometimes the legal bumbling would shock the public to it's core.

Anonymous said...

Sherris hair was very long, past her waist so even if it was significantly cut, it would still be considered long, idk where you are hearing your facts but kieth never said she was at home wrapping gifts when she she got kid napped, maybe that's what she was doing before her jog but she definitely didn't get kids napped out of her home.

Anonymous said...

False. I am an ICU nurse and you would definitely lose more than a few pounds not eating or drinking much for a few weeks. Doesn't mean you are the same as a true starvation victim but could still look very different.

Linda Estes said...

Thanks for your input!

Linda Estes said...

People pass lie detector tests all the time and they are lying.

Gngr~snap said...

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarkMyWords/comments/5f8kpb/mmw_sherri_papini_is_lying_about_her_abduction/dawnonu

"They're not investigating anymore. I have called and they said they aren't taking information from the public."

Are they about to make an arrest?

Johannes S. said...

Pat! please tell me they haven´t stopped their investigation!!! this is going to make people really wonder why we have police at all. we have a legitimate right to know if there is a gang of miscreants kidnapping women. if not, shouldn´t Sherri face some sort of punishment?

Anya McNeill Langston said...

Thank you Pat and you brought up very interesting points. I read on another post some place online that she sells on a website called Poshmark and that on one of her items there was a question and answer about one of her items on November 8 which could have been last year (an old post perhaps) it was on a Christmas sweater. it is showing as sold and online. spapini or sherriscloset.

Anya McNeill Langston said...

Thank you Pat! You brought up some very interesting points. I wholeheartedly concur with what you are saying on this.

Did you hear that she has a Poshmark website and selling stuff? On one of her items there is a question and answer from November 8! It is unknown if that was an old post perhaps from last year or maybe this is another persons account. It has her photo and she is also in some of her photos on her page. It's spapini or sherri's closet. Go to the sold item which is Christmas sweater. I had seen this posted online by someone else and just mentioning in case u wanted to take a look.

Anya McNeill Langston said...

I wanted to ask u if someone has a broken nose as they are reporting she did then wouldn't someone require surgery from that immediately or that put into a cast? It seems odd that she would be released from hospital so quickly

Anonymous said...

About the husband passing a polygraph. "So will a narcissist be able to pass a lie detector test? Definitely. But not based on hiding the truth. Purely based on another perception of truth. He / she might be telling not the truth, and still pass, because he / she will be telling his or her own truth, believe in it, and there for not respond in a way the lie detector will notice." - Ruud Schmitz (Quora)

Pat Brown said...

Anon 7:12

I do not believe that liars believe their lies; they know damned well they are lying. However, they may still learn how to beat a polygraph. Also, a lot depends on the questions asked.

Pat Brown said...

Johannes,

I am sure they have not stopped their investigation. What the woman said was they were not taking tips which is pretty weird.

Pat Brown said...

Anon 5:59

I thought not answering the phone was strange as well. Yes, it could be a wacko but it is worth having to deal with a wacko rather than missing a call from or about your wife. What if it were her desperately calling you for help? Or to give a clue? What if it were the kidnapper calling? Even if you are becoming exhausted you would probably still answer the phone because you do not know for sure it won't be THE call.

Rustyoscarbear said...

I think he did call her. What's wrong with daycare. It's good for kids to socialize. Also nothing wrong with mom needing a little time to take care of herself.

Anonymous said...

*ICU Nurse*
As I stated previously, in three weeks time a person would definitely lose weight...their appearance might change slightly. But to say they've become emaciated in three weeks is dramatizing the situation. I'm also in the medical field. I've seen people with malabsorption, gastroparesis and worked in oncology. It takes far more than 3 weeks to reach the extreme of emaciation.

rusty said...

Why were her children in daycare all day when she did not work. Something about that seems odd that she had them all taken care of when this happened.

Deb said...

Thank you, Pat. You've posed or answered many questions that I've had since following this case. It will be interesting to see how it all turns out especially if both of the primaries stick to their stories.

Deb said...

Thanks, Pat! You have answered many of the questions I've had since following this story. It will be interesting to how it all turns out especially if the two primaries stick to their story.

Anonymous said...

My husband was in a coma for 2 weeks and lost 30 pounds. Sorry Anonymous #1, you need to get your facts straight.

Anonymous said...

I noted too in the 20/20 interview he referred to her constantly as "my wife". I'd have to watch it again to see if he ever used her name but i recall he did not. Just kept saying "my wife". I found that to be odd.

Anonymous said...

Still following this case digging deeper into Cameron Gamble. Wondering why he wife two children moved to Enterprise Alabama back in Dec/06 for such a brief period of time. Moving back to Redding within the year. A Redding news article March/07 states Cameron was working for 'Tate Inc as a Code-of- Conduct trainer giving direction to Army and special forces pilots':circa reporter Kimberley Ross Record Searchlight News. This article is once again touting CG after a tornado ravaged part of Enterprise and how C&JG started a 'ministery' website for people to donate funds materials for those affected. Btw; Tate Inc is owned by same group of men linked to the CIA tortue. One of the seven David Ayers's name is being dropped last week on Reddit by Gamble. In the above 2007 article Gamble mentions his boss Ayers donated money and Gamble's time to rent an excavator which Gamble then operated to help clear rubble from destroyed homes. Question is why would Gamble leave such a job and how could he take time off training to do this volunteer work. He obviously didn't stay in Alabama long but moved back to Redding. Incidently he was or is involved in a company along with family members called Gamble Excavating in Redding. One of Keith Papini's strongest defenders online presently also own a excavating construction business.The above mentioned news article reads like CG wrote himself and sent it to a reporter. No matter how his authenticity is being questioned he still replies like he is applying for a biz brand advert. Defending his actions glorifying his questionable training and successes. Plus many online trolling any posts they consider negativity which could very well be him or Bethel Church who seem to act out similar to Scientologists to any who dare critisize or question their followers.