Tuesday, July 5, 2011

Criminal Profiling Topic of the Day: Arguments in Favor of the Casey Anthony Jury Verdict

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Criminal Profiler Pat Brown

56 comments:

Anonymous said...

I've said it once & I'll say it again....,,you are very funny.

Anonymous said...

I enjoyed reading this. I completely agree.

Anonymous said...

IF YOU FEEL THE JURY WAS WRONG, DO NOT BUY HER BOOK! DO NOT GO TO HER MOVIE. IF YOU ARE DISGUSTED WITH HER DO NOT PUT MONEY IN HER POCKET. TURN YOUR BACKS ON HER AND DO NOT LET HER PROFIT FROM ANY OF THIS. THIS IS OUR ONLY WAY TO TRY TO GET SOME JUSTICE FOR LITTLE CAYLEE . IF YOU AGREE, COPY AND PASTE THIS MESSAGE AND POST IT ON YOUR PROFILE

Anonymous said...

:-))))) Love you, Pat <3

Southernbelle said...

I feel sick and I feel angry. This is an outrage. Almost as speechless as Pat!!!!!! (very clever BTW!)

guerra said...

The problem, Pat, is that "reasonable doubt" is an abstract concept that leads some people to make irrational judgments. Apparently, It was all an accident. Someone panicked and decided to put duct tape around the child's mouth, stick the child in several trash bags and dispose of the child's body in the woods. And we can excuse the mother's decision not to report the accident and her penchant for lying because she learned to be secretive and not to tell the truth from an early age due to being repeatedly sexually abused by her father and brother. The mother partying all night day after day after her child died is a bit strange but acceptable, because according to some experts there is no inappropriate behaviour. We are also suppose to believe that young mothers are interested in how to make chloroform and how to break necks, for the purpose of self defence. What I also learned from this case is that you should never leave a pizza box inside the trunk of your car because it will generate an odour similar to the odour of death that will linger for many years.

I often wonder, do these defence lawyers actually believe what they are saying? And if not are they not committing perjury?

It is heartrending to know that this little girl had such a short life and suffered such a horrible death. And what makes it worse is that no one is being punished for this crime.

Pat Brown said...

Guerra, that is a very good description of irrational thinking masquerading as logical, analytical determinations. As for the defense lawyers, some are just as psychopathic as their clients. They only care about winning and getting over on people. Justice and public safety be damned.

Tracy P.I. said...

Dahlink yoo haz suchez a vay vit vordz

translated: I've never laughed so hard since this travesty of justice happened!

Pat Brown said...

Easiest post I have written for any blog to date.

California Girl said...

As usual, you are right on.

FRG said...

Mrs. Brown,

Thank you! I am devastated how being unethical paid off in this case.

No justice for Caylee! None!

I am still in shock that 12 people would believe the opening statements made by JB. Mrs. Burdick's fears of people not having "common sense" turned out to be true. Do these jurors have kids?

Mrs. Brown, what's the probability of KC going back to her pitiful life and lie, lie, lie? Did she learn any lesson? Nope, she will make movies and write books.

What's wrong with these jurors?

I am devastated, Mrs. Brown!

I love your articles! I will keep reading them. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

In Portugal, the main objective of a trial is to find the truth. Whereas, in the USA, from what I have seen in tv series, the main goal is to win, whether you are the prosecutor or the defense lawyer. It is not about finding out what really happened, that is the truth, but it is about trying to get your case over even if it means having important evidence disallowed through legal tricks, etc. It seems to me that when someone is charged, the whole investigation is about trying to find evidence to make a stronger case, even if there is a possibility that person is not guilty. Just IMO
Caroline

Pat Brown said...

I entirely agree, Anonymous (Portugal). The adversarial system the US is so in love with is just a field ripe for abuse, self-interest, and cheating. The effort should be to acquire the most knowledge one can about the crime and the accused and intensely review, analyze, and a question the evidence to make sure that the evidence is of such strength to convict without reasonable doubt or to release the individual because there IS reasonable doubt. But, this big game between lawyers where the only thing that matters is winning regardless of perjuring testimony in court of fabricating stories to get the defendant off, and paying experts ridiculous amounts of money to lie....it all needs to stop.

Anonymous said...

Wow Pat you said a mouthful...

GramaGoldilocks said...

Pat, you are by far the best! I just wish, and I've tweeted it, that the single piece of evidence that would have nailed this child killer to the wall was not presented by the prosecution. If you want to know email me at gramagoldilocks@live.com
You should run for President!
GramaGoldilocks
http://gramagoldilocks.com

Anonymous said...

LOLLLL thankfully I do not have soda in my mouth, I would have just ruined my monitor!

Anonymous said...

Hi Pat disgusted with this verdict even here in the UK.

Don't understand why the prosecution do not put in a motion for a new trial on the accidental death and concealment charge? I know you have the 'double jeopardy' rule there but have read that if this verdict is 'put aside' pending a new trial it doesn't apply?

No one should 'get away' with a crime of this magnitude, why doesn't the prosecution keep fighting for the child?

Anonymous said...

Pat, watched you on TV last night...love your new DO...
Anyway, I have been crying since the verdict was read...I have lost faith in our system....we let murderers walk, while we convict the wrong people daily...Right now I feel like I want to escape to an uninhabited island to live there until I die...this thing has made me sick.

FRG said...

Mrs. Brown,

Now jurors are coming out of the wood saying there was no evidence to convict KC. Then let's reasoning, they believed it was an accident, they didn't consider KC the primary caretaker of Caylee and KC was raised to lie. HHJP instructed the jurors that "opening statements" are "not" evidence. JB didn't get to prove the accidental death nor the sexual abuse allegations and therefore KC should go free not to be charged of "anything" not even child abuse because of "what evidence"? Oh, I see KC's sinlge friends told KC was a good mother! Insert rolling eyes here.

Now this is called "common sense" right?

If you kill your kid make sure to hire an unethical lawyer make up a lot of lies about your parents and pick up a jury from Clearwater.

I am sorry Mrs. Brown but I am disappointed with these people. It seems to me that all they wanted was to go back home. their one juror reasoning was, "I don't think she is innocent and I feel sick to my stomache and there was not enough evidence to convict her. So it makes me think that they they didn't bother to take a look at all the evidence presented to them... because it was going to take forever then they better release another murdered to the streets. How responsible can these people be?

I need to vent Mrs. Brown, what's wrong with them?

chaosflutterby said...

Brilliant post!

Anonymous said...

Hello! I completely agree with your post! I have a very hinky feeling about this whole trial. I watched the prosecution hit it out of the park and the defense team mumble, stumble and fumble their way through. The best quote from Jose Bozo was "The truth stops here!" Now the jury is crawling out of the woodwork to cash in. I refuse to watch or read anything paying the defendent, her family or her defense team, past or present. The thought of all the blood money is making me sick!
Lisa in Jersey

Donna said...

Brilliant! It was a little wordy, though, lol.

Anonymous said...

Juror #3 has been on TV stating we didn't know how Caylee died. If we passed around a blank sheet of paper nobody could say what caused the death. Why is she making this an issue when the Medical examiner testified Homicide cause of death unknown. Didn't they walk into deliberations knowing there was no testimony on HOW Caylee died other than it was a murder? There was also testimony that if it was an accident, 100% of the time 911 is called.

So since they didn't have proof positive how she died they ignored the duck tape, chloroform, hair in the trunk, smell in the trunk, the computer searches and 31 days of lying and not reporting her missing. And since they saw the pics of the skull with duck tape I assume they think Roy Kronk or George did that while Casey was getting her grieving tattoo.

Anonymous said...

Well, it only took me about 20 minutes to understand your article (OK I'm a little slow). But, now that I do there is no better way of stating the obvious!

Anonymous said...

I've tried to read this on two computers now, but it's blank for me. How is everyone else able to read?

Hebby said...

I cant read the post Pat, it is a blank page.

Anonymous said...

Ms. Brown - no words are showing up for this blog entry but there are no probs with your other entries.

Judging by the comments though, others were not only able to read it but commented how much they'd enjoyed reading it!

I will keep checking back & hopefully, you haven't deleted the entry intentionally because I'm looking forward to reading it!!

Anonymous said...

blank for me too

Miranda Quo said...

I'm not able to read it either. I tried 2 browsers: Firefox and Chrome and I still don't see the article. I see all the older ones. What's up?

Anonymous said...

It's blank for me too. Just many lines of dots.

DramaMama said...

I cannot see the blog post either...was it removed?

DramaMama said...

I cannot read this either...has it been removed?

Bran said...

Blank for me, too.

Pat Brown said...

Your computers are working just fine, guys!

Beth said...

Simply, Thank You!

Julia said...

It took me a minute to get it myself, but that was great! Very funny!

denise said...

Hearing- NOT GUILTY really hit me hard. Can't remember ever being so upset by a court case. So, when I read your "arguments for" headline on another blog I didn't click to the article because I was so upset. After awhile, I told myself that you had a lot of knowledge and experience in the field. It might help me to hear the "other side" from someone whose opinions I respected. Maybe there really was something I was missing. Clicking to your blog
and actually "reading" what went with the headline was just what I needed. Thanks for the smile.

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NancyB said...

This is OT - I am heartbroken… I am stunned that this jury discarded all the lesser charged options and basically have set this psychopath free. I am disgusted that Baez had the arrogance to publicly declare that this was justice for Caylee. Did the jury have no understanding of the definition of reasonable doubt? Did they think any doubt was equivalent?

As everyone knows, trials are won or lost in jury selection. While I do think that Judge Perry is a stellar jurist, I believe that he rushed the jury selection process in a significant way. Because he is also the chief administrative judge his role and responsibilities encompass the financial constraints and considerations involved in the costs incurred with 2 weeks in Pinellas County. He also had to contend with the small window of time that he was allotted for use of their court room. Just as a comparable reference the Scott Peterson case took 11 weeks to seat the jury. You have an enormous amount of criminal trial experience, what do you think about this?

I do wonder why 4 members of Casey’s jury have criminal records. Why would they have been selected by the Prosecution? I do remember that they were running out of jury pool candidates and also the time deadline was fast looming. I do not place any blame on the Prosecution because I think that they’re hands were tied. I do think that it was very unwise for Judge Perry to have such an arbitrary deadline fixed for this most all important process.

Juror #3 said: "You can't punish someone for something if you don't know what they did."

Juror #3, it was NOT YOUR JOB to PUNISH Casey Anthony. It WAS your JOB to LISTEN TO THE EVIDENCE and USE COMMON SENSE. You were not handing down PUNISHMENT in this phase. Did you skim over the words "Caylee is Dead" on the Juror Instruction sheet?

Juror #3, Ms. Ford spoke on Nightline last night. Ms. Ford felt that one could not convict if you didn't know how someone died or the motive.

I totally disagree. You don't need to know a motive. You don't need to know how someone died. It's my opinion that often times people don't realize that behavior is evidence, powerful evidence.

She stated that the prosecution did not provide the jury with those facts. She also stated that she did not believe the defense case. On the Nightline show, she completely sidestepped the evidence of the duct tape on Caylee's skull. She never addressed it.

I can’t believe what some of these jurors believed! Juror #2 stated that “it didn’t matter at what point in time she came home and found out her daughter missing”. I can’t believe it. They also said they weren’t sure who the caretaker was. How in the world did this happen? Were they sleeping when the PT told in detail the calls from Cindy to Casey asking where they were? She kept making excuses as to where Caylee was. We all know this, CLEARLY Casey was the “caregiver” (term used loosely).

NancyB said...

Part 2
This is unreal…..they thought Casey came home and found out Caylee was missing??????????? This tells me they could not have been paying attention at all.

Done is done but JP made a huge mistake not telling the jurors they had to disregard the opening statement from Baez as he proved none of it. This jury believed it with not one iota of proof but disregarded the evidence the PT had.
How did 12 people agree Casey “came home and found out Caylee was missing”? It’s like one of them made it up and they all went along with it….they gave no thought whatsoever to the 31 days. What a huge huge mistake these people made by not taking the time to ask questions and look at evidence, and most of all, use common sense.

I think this jury was totally taken in by the CSI effect. They were unable to make any type of conclusion about Casey’s post-incident behavior and wanted all the evidence tied up for them in a neat package. IMO, that's what the CSI effect is. They wanted to know when she died, where she died and how she died before they were willing to convict on any charge. It shows us a jury that is unable to analyze evidentiary behavior critically, and come to a conclusion about it. This jury also rejected the prosecution's motive that was presented to them. I believe they rejected it because they didn't understand it.

Even though Casey Anthony lied to every person in her immediate orbit, law enforcement officers, the general public and beyond about having a job, what she was doing and when, having a "Zanny the nanny" and a kidnapping, that behavior by Casey was rejected by the jury as having any weight as evidence that a crime had been committed. They basically said, Casey Anthony's post incident behavior means nothing without a motive or cause of death.

Even though the prosecution presented strong evidence that there was a dead body and high traces of chloroform in the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, they still could not come to the conclusion that a dead body had been placed inside it. Even though the prosecution presented powerful evidence that three pieces of duct tape were attached to the child's skull, mandible and hair, the jury did not see that as evidence that a crime had taken place. Many of us are wondering what person in their right mind could think that how and where little Caylee ended up, in plastic bags, in a swamp, with duct tape wrapped around her head was the result of an "accident?" To me, this tells me that this juror, and most likely the rest of the jurors were unable to connect the dots and put the pieces of evidence together.

When you have jurors that are unable to make reasonable conclusions about post-incident behavior and powerful scientific evidence this is the type of verdict you get.

The jurors, IMO are accountable to society for their actions. As they step forward to give their reasons for their utterly incredible verdict and reap financial benefits for speaking, they become fair game for investigation. They let a murderer, a psychopath free onto society!

Here is the real Juror #3, she has a lot in common with Casey, they both like to write bad checks.
http://www.pcsoweb.com/InmateBooking/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1410423

li'l town girl said...

do not we all know that COMMON SENSE IS NOT COMMON? this has just been proven once again!

li'l town girl said...

do not we all know that COMMON SENSE IS NOT COMMON? this has just been proven once again by the 12 idiots of Pinellas county!

Pat Brown said...

NancyB,

All very good points.

And, hard to believe, Juror#3 is allowed on the jury at all. She is a flat out criminal. You don't accidentally pass bad checks. She obviously has no moral compass and yet she is supposed to determine right from wrong and have the ability to discern the law? Right.

FRG said...

Mrs. Brown,

These jurors wanted to go home. Period! They make me sick to set free a psychopath!

Mrs. Brown, what are the possibilities KC will go back to her lies, writing bad checks and getting pregnant again? I know that people will pay her big bucks to tell her story and make a movie. I won't be buying or watching though. She is sick!

By the way, just started to read your book last night then didn't want to stop... "The Profiler: My Life Hunting Serial Killers and Psychopaths"... your life is so fantastic, you are a very unique person, very sweet! Well, let me go back to your book. It's fascinating, I am loving it!

chaosflutterby said...

@NancyB: Unless you are claiming that Juror #3 changed her eye color, I don't think that's the same Jennifer Ford. The one in the mugshot has blue eyes. Juror #3 has brown eyes.

Theresa said...

I agree completely!

birdman said...

Just read the review on wiki.the words travesty and farce just about sum it up to me.

Gina Bullard said...

Brilliant!!!!!! ;)

sierra said...

As the saying goes, "birds of a feather..." - no truer words spoken for this pair, baez & casey anthony. I can remember when I first read about the case roughly at the time Caylee's dry bones were recovered, & viewing the jail videotapes that had been released. I thought, "she's a narcissistic psychopath, explosive subtype" & as she destroyed Caylee & her family, she'll continue to create chaos & destruction, & thrive on it. Sure enough! Jury nullification in the verdict handed down, & although 70% of Americans believe she walked away from murder (which she did), according to a USA Today poll, certain media talking heads are giving voice to the 1 out of 3, & endorsing the "everybody loves a winner" logic in stroking the shockingly legally-inept & unprofessiona baez, & the equally childish, bullying, mysogynistic, & flat-out offensive mason.
It's my opinion that Casey Anthony's evilness (psychopathy) knows no boundaries, & her deep inner rage also has no bounds..like every narcissistic psychopath. She's not just vindictive, she's extraordinarily so. George A. testified to the Grand Jury & told (some of) the truth as he knew it, which returned the murder indictment against her. She repaid him by not just maligning him, but by utterly destroying him via severe child sexual abuse accusations that were felonies & had no statute of limitations, & made sure baez brought out his suicide attempt, suicide letter, & his alleged affair with convicted felon (fraud) River Cruz. Typical overkill payback by a narcissistic psychopath. Casey Anthony has drained her family (although Cindy is still fawning & fawning over her in court so she's the exception), & she's drained the public, for the most part. I'm fatigued of her, & hoped she'd been in jail for 49 yrs so coverage of & interest in her would die down. Guess not, with this unjust verdict.((sigh)). jmho

Anonymous said...

Okay, I visit this site often as I really enjoy your insights into criminals and high profile cases Pat. I am reading the comments here and I am dying to read what you wrote, but I can't see it. I see all of your other posts just fine. With this post, I can only see what looks like hyphens along the left side. I thought it might be my browser or my PC, but I can't view this anywhere, using Firefox or IE. I've tried 4 computers. No-one else is mentioning this happening to them, so I don't know what is going on. Arghhh!

Anonymous said...

Duh....just checked later comments and I'm not alone with the lack of text. Hope I can read the story soon!

Anonymous said...

I hope Casey Anthony is never able to have another child.
Poor Caylee. RIP

twoandtwo4 said...

Dear Ms. Brown - Posting at last because I can't bear to read any more posts by people who "can't see" your article.
P-L-E-A-S-E put them out of their misery!
Am always interested to read here, your insightful articles and the interesting comments which follow.

Pat Brown said...

Hi twoandtwo4! I HAVE tried to let people know as have others that there is NOTHING wrong with their computer or the post but apparently many do not read the comments to get that information!

What can I say? I just have to smile.

Teresa said...

I can't see anything either. Big blank space.

grandmasandy said...

Big blank space??? I loved the '''FAVORABLE'''comments Pat made LOL
Good job Pat :)